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Subject: Re: breaking downtubes and basebars
From: Dan
Date: Fri Apr 26 06:32:39 2002

Roy,

A million thanks - I really mean it, I've been flying for over 25 years and
in the past year my landings have suffered something terrible, and this is
someone who has landed Sensors and the old Attack Duck with ease. My
landings have suffered so terribly that I broke my right arm on a rather
nasty crash. The crash was a result of a couple events that resulted in a
ungraceful slam into the earth at about 50KM. Without going into great
detail, I have over time prior to the accident become a bit timid on my
landings, and I use to have such beautiful ones. Never broke a downtube in
all the years prior to my little accident. Anyway, reading your message
brought it all back to me, where I have been going astray and I just wanted
to say thanks. I can't wait for good weather so I can refresh my landing
abilities.

Dan

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"Roy Garden" <roy@footlaunched.com> wrote in message
news:aa8f5j$1kk$1@knossos.btinternet.com...
> Depends what type of downtubes you have.
> there are some types of downtubes which will take out your collarbone
before
> they give, these are _bad_ tubes, talk with your instructor, if you have
> this type of airofoil upright (solid) get you instructor to change them
out
> for you.
>
> Use wheels.
>
> pay attention to what the wing is telling you when you land.
>
> When you come in to land you (should) be pulling on some speed to maintain
> control authority as you come down through wind shear. (you'll be pulling
> the downtubes towards you and as such will be flying faster than trim
speed)
>
> as you fly along level with the ground (with your feet 6" above the
ground)
> you'll be letting the tubes come forward, you will be reducing the amount
of
> pull you have on the downtubes. pay attention to this and feel for it.
>
> at some point (depending on how fast you came in) the down tubes will be
> neutral, you'll neither be pushing or pulling. You are at trim speed on
the
> glider.
> You will know where the glider is trimmed, If you have it trimmed at or
near
> min sink;
> carry on on your ground run till you _just_ have to push (gently) on the
> downtubes to maintain 6" clearance on your feet; then _REACH FOR THE SKY_
> (don't push "out" push "UP" _AND HOLD IT UP!_) you'll stop dead. assuming
> you were not turning in any way shape or form before you started to push,
if
> you are turning, don't flare, run it out.
>
> This all depends on where your glider is trimmed to fly, if you are
trimmed
> fast, then a fair amount of judgment is needed to guage how much below
trim
> you are before you flare.
>
> My $0.02
> (and I'm not an instructor)
> (I guarantee this 100%, till I press the send button)
> Have fun flying, remember, Aluminum is recyclable so you won't be harming
> the environment when you bend down tubes.
>
> "Not bending downtubes means you are not trying hard enough."
> (Kevin Frost, 1999)
>
> look here to see others who have bent aluminum before you
> (including me)
> http://www.footlaunched.com/crash_cam.htm
>
>
> "Jeremy Bromham" <jeremyb@austarnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:aa3j8q$2h57$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> > Hi, ive just started hang gliding (last week i finished my course) and i
> am
> > just worrying about breaking downtubes and basebars upon landing. If
you
> > could reply and tell me how likely it is for this to happen to me it
would
> > be appreciated.
> >
> >
>
>




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