"Robert W. Cunningham" <FlyPG@users.sourceforge.net> wrote

> Not so!
> The key is for us all to turn at the same RATE (angular velocity, not
linear
> speed). That means we all go around once in the same amount of time.
Since
> HGs fly faster, PGs have to turn tighter

Oh come on now Bob, you don't really believe that an HG can't slow down do
you? That's what we do when we want to max out a thermal. That's just an
excuse for you to air-hog the core.

> I was first taught HG-PG mixing at Elsinore, a place where the crowd isn't
at
> all appreciative of anyone getting between them and lift. The HGs there
would
> carve these beautiful circles, and hold them steady while I learned to
stay
> opposite them in the thermal.

Now see, I knew you didn't believe that a PG had to hog the core! ;-)
Elsinore is where I fly most of the time, and every once in a while, some
clueless(!) Sandy Eggo PG pilot will come up and totally screw up
everything. <g>

> When HGs and PGs share a thermal, the PGs had BETTER be to the inside!

No, they had better be flying fast, opposite the HG that's up on a tip and
pushed out.

> After returning to San Diego sites, I realized many of the local HG pilots
were
> just not as good in thermals as the Elsinore crew,

Sounds like you are blaming all HGs for a site-specific problem. Make it
clear that it's the Sandy Eggo pilots you have a hard-on against.

> Most HG pilots setup
> at the edge of the available area first, and don't just grab the middle.
But
> the HG Jerks will often go to the middle first, even if there's abundant
space
> elsewhere. Space that can't be safely used for top landings, but is
perfect
> for HG setup.

If I can set up there then you can land there. You shouldn't be landing in
the set-up area anyway! Landings are for the L Z.

> When I
> come up and ask them to share the space, literally 90% of the time I get
bad
> attitude in return.

That's probably because they have their gear laid out and its a pain to
gather it all up and move it because some Johnny-come-lately wants to top
land the set-up area.

> I'm talking about pilots who park their trucks in the worst possible
places for
> PG top approaches, then refuse to move them when asked.

They probably still have the harness and other gear in the truck. You want
them to park further away and carry their stuff so you can top land the
set-up area?

> Yet at Elsinore it happened for me twice in a single weekend! I was
amazed.

You're welcome.

> Everyone in the world should have an HG truck, right?

Nope, just those that want a ride to launch or a retrieve. What goes around
comes around.

> You have ridden in my vehicle. You have never offered gas money. Or
beer. I
> have wire-assisted at least one of your launches.

You are dreaming! My wife drives chase in my truck, Elsinore doesn't
require a wire assist, I don't drink, and since you don't have a rack,
there's no way I'm getting on your motor scooter!

So lose the attiude, quit trying to land in the set up area, and maybe even
the S.D. boys will come around. Or not.

regards

-Marc

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